Jason Lopez: You know, in a roundabout way. It sounds like what you're saying is a multi-hybrid cloud prevents monopolistic behavior, it sort of stokes competition in the industry.
Dr. Nandish Mattikalli: Yes. And that is the idea. But these big five cloud providers, have inherently a vested interest to control customers' buying. And when I say cloud providers, I'm talking about AWS, Microsoft, Google, Oracle, and IBM, the big five. But I believe that as a system integrator, it's our responsibility to help our customers to navigate through those designed constraints. But we are fortunate to have some relationships with other key vendors such as Nutanix, Dell, so that we can help our customers.
Jason Lopez: So I got a what-if question for you here? And it is this, what would it be possible to be only cloud or only on-prem in the future and the way that you see things?
Dr. Nandish Mattikalli: It is possible, but I don't think it will happen for our particular customer base. Some workloads are so sensitive that they can only be done on-prem or in a very enclosed infrastructure. And then the need for edge computing for, in several of the programs that we're working for the air force in particular, that the need for edge computing, where there is a limitation on the bandwidth or connectivity requirements, we will have to do a hybrid cloud as well. And the cost is a major concern. For example, if they were to store large amounts of data for ongoing processing, they are sensitive about the costs of data ingress and egress in the cloud computing environment. They're thinking about, "Hey, do we need only cloud or do we need a hybrid approach." And I think the hybrid approach is the way that will prevail I believe
Jason Lopez: Right. And, you know, we could end it right there. But, uh, I just wonder if you could sum up what we've been talking about here or this idea embracing the cloud and what it brings?
Dr. Nandish Mattikalli: So for us, as well as, and more importantly, for customers, it is about embracing the shift that's happening in the marketplace and really leveraging those shifts to realize the benefits of the technology transformation that's happening in the marketplace. What we are doing is taking our customers along the journey and helping them achieve the mission in terms of time, space and cost.
Jason Lopez: Nandish Mattikalli is the chief engineer for the solutions business at BAE. This is the tech barometer podcast. I'm Jason Lopez. It comes to you from The Forecast and you can find us at theforecastbynutanix.com.