Jason Lopez: Okay. So, uh, why are you doing that? And what do you think is a good example of what we're able to do with the technology?
Mark Bowker: So the reason I do is is one is to validate the technology really works. But if you take the example I just gave you, I was able to create that desktop within easily within 15 minutes that then I was able to access and start logging in with my company credentials and start working. So if you take a time like this where people have almost flipped and completely working from home, now you can imagine that if I didn't have a device to give that user, well now I can take a desktop that's hosted inside a data center in the cloud. So VDI or Baz, depending on the technology, then projected to that user. And I can have that done at scale really within minutes or hours as opposed to the traditional way of having to procure device, install the operating system, install the applications and installed the data. So just the time savings alone can be enormous. Um, being able to host desktop images off of the end point device.
Jason Lopez: Yeah. Well it brings to mind this idea, you know, before virtual desktops, if we were to have had the situation in the past where we have to be at home and sheltered in place, you know, a business might issue everyone a laptop, uh, loaded up, uh, provide a VPN, provide some instructions, maybe a call center, uh, and then just kind of hope it works.
Mark Bowker: And it wouldn't work, right? It's not, it wouldn't work. If you think about it, one, you'd need to have those laptops in house. Now you're just really saying, Hey, take this laptop. Well what if it got lost on the way? What if their kids start playing games on it and it stops working? And then the other thing you mentioned is, okay, now they get home, they have to use VPN. Definitely if you go in double, triple, quadruple, you know, 10 X, the number of users, you're going to have performance problems. In that case, it doesn't scale. It doesn't work. Have companies done that? Absolutely. They've done it because they haven't prepared for it. And most companies haven't prepared for something like this. But at least that person can do some work while remotely. Now alternatively, if somebody had a device at home, they could have a hosted desktop somewhere and be able to access that hosted desktop without any risks. As long as I can authenticate purely to that desktop. Now I as an it owner, I've got still full control and management of that desktop because it lives in a
Jason Lopez: So Mark, I wonder if you could give us an idea of the growth, the adoption of virtual desktop technologies. What's that been like? Um, where did it start and where are we now?
Mark Bowker: Yeah, so when we surveyed users about five years ago, about a third of the users had BDI, um, deployed at some level. And then Daz was really just used five years ago as a potential alternative for VDI. And then what we've noticed is Daz has really caught up, there's really right now a neck and neck race of VDI versus Daz. And I truly believe that Daz is going to replace VDI. So what's it going to be? Interesting. Here is a third of the companies that we survey a VDI and usage day. Now given everybody working from home with the coronavirus pandemic, I think the question becomes is it going to bounce all the way back or contract all the way back to that third? I don't think so. I think that it's going to contract to, you know, a number in some cases that may be double that.
Mark Bowker: So you may go from a third kind of pre pandemic to upwards of like 80% during the pandemic and you may only when office offices opened back up, you may go back down to you know, 40 50% and where people are still working from home because they're going to realize the technology works, it's secure, it does deliver a good user experience and therefore people are going to have, you know, maybe greater work flexibility maybe to be able to attract new talent. Maybe to be able to even hire people more out of region or more globally in some businesses.
Jason Lopez: Okay. Well what do you think we're going to learn from this time?
Mark Bowker: I think we're going to learn that the technology works. I think now that's going to be a given. People will understand. Yes, the technology works and it's going to work well. I think we're going to learn some hard lessons during this time. So I think we're going to see some unfortunate things happen. We'll be even already seen like an increase in phishing attack, for example, to end users. Uh, and then I think you're just going to see that people are going to establish relationships. I don't think they expect it to in an office environment. And I say that through the means of collaboration tools, right? So working from home means that given today's collaboration tools, that you're likely spending time in meetings on video and you're, it's different being being in a meeting room with four or five, six, 10, 20 people than it is being online on video from your home office that you may or may not have a separate room for or not.
Mark Bowker: And I think people are gonna learn that, you know, it's okay if I have, you know, the dog laying next to me and you know, I'm in a meeting that, uh, that's gonna become more normal. And while I think that's good in many senses because it gives people a flexibility, you know, there's also the other side of that where, when does work ever begin and end, right? That we'll need to kind of be at aggressed too. But I think the biggest thing is, Hey, the technology works. It can work in even some of the most secure environments and it really just will minimally show businesses that there's an alternative to the way people can work in their environment.
Jason Lopez: Mark Belker is a senior analyst with the enterprise strategy group. He talked to us from, as he describes it, not in the woods of Maine, but in middle America where he's working from home and his kids can safely get outside now. And then during the lockdown. This is the tech barometer podcast on Jason Lopez tech barometer comes to you from the tech news site, the forecast. You can find more email@example.com.